Comments on: God http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/ Thoughts, notes and comments Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:56:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: dave http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/comment-page-1/#comment-516 dave Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:17:30 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/#comment-516 Alice, Yes, I did mean the link :) I know you can't know that, but you can believe it, and I think you can make pretty reliable logical inferences based on what organised Christianity tells us. I slightly disagree with the 'being prepared...' bit; I don't think you choose your beliefs (although you can choose to display or act on beliefs, whether you actually hold them or not), so rather than preparedness to believe, its logical delimitation of belief based on available evidence, which supports the point I made above (I think). It's all very complicated... sigh... xD. Alice,

Yes, I did mean the link :)

I know you can’t know that, but you can believe it, and I think you can make pretty reliable logical inferences based on what organised Christianity tells us.

I slightly disagree with the ‘being prepared…’ bit; I don’t think you choose your beliefs (although you can choose to display or act on beliefs, whether you actually hold them or not), so rather than preparedness to believe, its logical delimitation of belief based on available evidence, which supports the point I made above (I think).

It’s all very complicated… sigh…

xD.

]]> By: Alice http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/comment-page-1/#comment-513 Alice Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:06:04 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/#comment-513 Also maybe you meant to add in the link to the group suing Jerry Springer : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Voice_%28UK%29 Also maybe you meant to add in the link to the group suing Jerry Springer : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Voice_%28UK%29

]]> By: Alice http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/comment-page-1/#comment-512 Alice Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:02:48 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/#comment-512 "In short, the Supreme Being .. is not really .. that bothered about blasphemy and wouldn’t want its believers to behave like, er, chumps" The thing is, you can't know that. I've always said that if I were to believe in any kind of "supreme being", it would be one who isn't an insecure type of dude. The thing is, if it exists, who knows whether or not he or she is insecure. You can't. Of course, it is your right to believe as such, and tell people that this is your belief, but nobody can know whether or not it is fact. Silly really. Being prepared only to believe in a god who wouldn't send me to hell for not believing in him. xx God does have a beard though. FACT. “In short, the Supreme Being .. is not really .. that bothered about blasphemy and wouldn’t want its believers to behave like, er, chumps”

The thing is, you can’t know that.
I’ve always said that if I were to believe in any kind of “supreme being”, it would be one who isn’t an insecure type of dude. The thing is, if it exists, who knows whether or not he or she is insecure. You can’t.
Of course, it is your right to believe as such, and tell people that this is your belief, but nobody can know whether or not it is fact.

Silly really. Being prepared only to believe in a god who wouldn’t send me to hell for not believing in him.

xx

God does have a beard though. FACT.

]]> By: dave http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/comment-page-1/#comment-506 dave Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:46:47 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/#comment-506 Sadly not - he's been working a lot lately :) It would, referring to the above, if religion were a rather more private, personal affair. It's probably the protestant school I attended coming through, but I do wonder about the people who feel the need to shout about their religion so much; part of me thinks it's unbecoming, but mostly I am deeply unimpressed by arguments that basically come back to 'because it's written in this old book'. xD. Sadly not - he’s been working a lot lately :)

It would, referring to the above, if religion were a rather more private, personal affair. It’s probably the protestant school I attended coming through, but I do wonder about the people who feel the need to shout about their religion so much; part of me thinks it’s unbecoming, but mostly I am deeply unimpressed by arguments that basically come back to ‘because it’s written in this old book’.

xD.

]]> By: jameshigham http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/comment-page-1/#comment-505 jameshigham Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:48:06 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/#comment-505 Hello, Dave? Anyone home? Hello, Dave? Anyone home?

]]> By: jameshigham http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/comment-page-1/#comment-501 jameshigham Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:43:13 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/2007/12/09/god/#comment-501 However, some of the more extreme elements of the religious communities cannot even bear the thought that there are people out there who disagree with them, disbelieve their texts and will claim morality for themselves. This is the greatest sadness to me. I can be sharp with factual idiocy regarding the Logos but it's nothing to kill someone for or fall out forever over. And certainly not to drive your opinion down the other's throat. Some of the most unpleasant people I know are so-called Christians and the opposite is the case too, as you point out. However, some of the more extreme elements of the religious communities cannot even bear the thought that there are people out there who disagree with them, disbelieve their texts and will claim morality for themselves.

This is the greatest sadness to me. I can be sharp with factual idiocy regarding the Logos but it’s nothing to kill someone for or fall out forever over. And certainly not to drive your opinion down the other’s throat.

Some of the most unpleasant people I know are so-called Christians and the opposite is the case too, as you point out.

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