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	<title>Comments on: Nothing about us without us: the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities</title>
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	<description>Thoughts, notes and comments</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://davecole.org/blog/2008/03/31/nothing-about-us-without-us-the-un-convention-on-the-rights-of-persons-with-disabilities/#comment-1648</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shazia,

They are emphatically not for an ideal society; they are implementable and, largely, are in the UK and things are improving.

Just because some third world countries cannot fully implement all the points at the moment does not mean that we should not try to improve the situation. The final point above specifically says that the West should help LEDCs.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shazia,</p>
<p>They are emphatically not for an ideal society; they are implementable and, largely, are in the UK and things are improving.</p>
<p>Just because some third world countries cannot fully implement all the points at the moment does not mean that we should not try to improve the situation. The final point above specifically says that the West should help LEDCs.</p>
<p>xD.</p>
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		<title>By: Shazia Shamim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shazia Shamim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave, i am completely agreed with you ground reality is what Winchester said. BBC rule are for some ideal society. 3rd world is treating disabled quite differently...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave, i am completely agreed with you ground reality is what Winchester said. BBC rule are for some ideal society. 3rd world is treating disabled quite differently&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://davecole.org/blog/2008/03/31/nothing-about-us-without-us-the-un-convention-on-the-rights-of-persons-with-disabilities/#comment-1084</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WW,

I usually agree with a lot of what you say, but you have completely missed the point here.

Firstly, knowing one family out of, as I said, six hundred and fifty million disabled people is nowhere close to statistical validity. It's an anecdote, nothing more.

The reason disabilities can be exploited by making people beg is because people with disabilities are discriminated against and find it harder to get jobs because of physical barriers, lack of adaptations, lack of understanding and outright discrimination.

xD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WW,</p>
<p>I usually agree with a lot of what you say, but you have completely missed the point here.</p>
<p>Firstly, knowing one family out of, as I said, six hundred and fifty million disabled people is nowhere close to statistical validity. It&#8217;s an anecdote, nothing more.</p>
<p>The reason disabilities can be exploited by making people beg is because people with disabilities are discriminated against and find it harder to get jobs because of physical barriers, lack of adaptations, lack of understanding and outright discrimination.</p>
<p>xD.</p>
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		<title>By: Winchester whisperer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winchester whisperer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear what you say but disabilities are also exploited for begging gangs in the Third World. I know of a family in Srinagar whose son was kidnapped and they found him, years later, having had his eyes removed, begging on the streets of Delhi for a gang of thieves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear what you say but disabilities are also exploited for begging gangs in the Third World. I know of a family in Srinagar whose son was kidnapped and they found him, years later, having had his eyes removed, begging on the streets of Delhi for a gang of thieves.</p>
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