Comments on: Bendy buses – answers to FOI requests http://davecole.org/blog/2008/11/25/bendy-buses-answers-to-foi-requests/ Dave Cole's thoughts on politics, culture and modern life. Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:51:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Dave Hill: Boris Johnson’s personal style is an important political tool but he should be judged by the substance of his policies – Politics Unlimited | UK politics news http://davecole.org/blog/2008/11/25/bendy-buses-answers-to-foi-requests/comment-page-1/#comment-1963 Dave Hill: Boris Johnson’s personal style is an important political tool but he should be judged by the substance of his policies – Politics Unlimited | UK politics news Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:11:13 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=947#comment-1963 [...] by its online operations. A constellation of independent bloggers and website publishers – see here and here and here and here and here – have already made an impact, and the blogosphere has the [...] [...] by its online operations. A constellation of independent bloggers and website publishers – see here and here and here and here and here – have already made an impact, and the blogosphere has the [...]

]]> By: dave http://davecole.org/blog/2008/11/25/bendy-buses-answers-to-foi-requests/comment-page-1/#comment-1866 dave Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:38:49 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=947#comment-1866 What do you have against people who use wheelchairs? xD. What do you have against people who use wheelchairs?

xD.

]]> By: jameshigham http://davecole.org/blog/2008/11/25/bendy-buses-answers-to-foi-requests/comment-page-1/#comment-1861 jameshigham Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:35:31 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=947#comment-1861 I have an idea - bring back the Routemasters. I have an idea – bring back the Routemasters.

]]> By: Tom http://davecole.org/blog/2008/11/25/bendy-buses-answers-to-foi-requests/comment-page-1/#comment-1857 Tom Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:21:44 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=947#comment-1857 "Cripes"? Actually, looking at it, they terminate at different parts of Waterloo. It's the 38/507 at Victoria that share, but obviously while there'll be more 38s, they'll be slightly shorter overall. What would be very interesting is how Victoria could cope with more 507s during the station rebuild, assuming that goes ahead. “Cripes”?

Actually, looking at it, they terminate at different parts of Waterloo. It’s the 38/507 at Victoria that share, but obviously while there’ll be more 38s, they’ll be slightly shorter overall. What would be very interesting is how Victoria could cope with more 507s during the station rebuild, assuming that goes ahead.

]]> By: dave http://davecole.org/blog/2008/11/25/bendy-buses-answers-to-foi-requests/comment-page-1/#comment-1856 dave Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:08:41 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=947#comment-1856 Tom, I'll take a look. The report is at <a href="http://www.londontravelwatch.org.uk/document/3530/get rel="nofollow">http://www.londontravelwatch.org.uk/document/3530/get</a> In answer to your question about Waterloo, I would have said 'yes', but that there'll be more pressure on the roundabout that leads to the taxi rank. Now that would be an irony - taxi drivers annoyed by lack of bendies! I wonder what Boris would say to some of the cities of the world, like Hamburg, Utrecht and Curitiba, that use double articulated buses. xD. Tom,

I’ll take a look. The report is at http://www.londontravelwatch.org.uk/document/3530/get

In answer to your question about Waterloo, I would have said ‘yes’, but that there’ll be more pressure on the roundabout that leads to the taxi rank. Now that would be an irony – taxi drivers annoyed by lack of bendies!

I wonder what Boris would say to some of the cities of the world, like Hamburg, Utrecht and Curitiba, that use double articulated buses.

xD.

]]> By: Tom http://davecole.org/blog/2008/11/25/bendy-buses-answers-to-foi-requests/comment-page-1/#comment-1854 Tom Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:36:24 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=947#comment-1854 If you haven't read it already, the London Travelwatch stakeholder consultation (which was very negative to bendy replacement) has more information, specifically around replacement numbers, which they'd asked TfL for as part of the consultation. The 507 goes from 9 to 17 vehicles, the 521 from 19 to 34, which are both hefty old increases. 28 to 51 vehicles is 82% more drivers, so there's a big cost right there. The notable thing about these two routes is that I *think* the replacements have a longer wheelbase, plus there is a whole lot more bus on the streets, 504m at the moment rising to 612m, which I make about 21% more area covered. I'm not sure how this is either supposed to cut congestion or save money, which are two Boris priorities. Also, they share a terminus at Waterloo. Are 21% more buses there going to fit? If you haven’t read it already, the London Travelwatch stakeholder consultation (which was very negative to bendy replacement) has more information, specifically around replacement numbers, which they’d asked TfL for as part of the consultation. The 507 goes from 9 to 17 vehicles, the 521 from 19 to 34, which are both hefty old increases. 28 to 51 vehicles is 82% more drivers, so there’s a big cost right there.

The notable thing about these two routes is that I *think* the replacements have a longer wheelbase, plus there is a whole lot more bus on the streets, 504m at the moment rising to 612m, which I make about 21% more area covered. I’m not sure how this is either supposed to cut congestion or save money, which are two Boris priorities.

Also, they share a terminus at Waterloo. Are 21% more buses there going to fit?

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